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	<title>Comments on: Happy Holidays! Money Morning Readers Weigh In</title>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
		<link>http://www.moneymorning.com/2008/12/24/recession-shapes/comment-page-1/#comment-13804</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I AGREE with #1,2,3 &amp; 4 above.   I once subscribed to Leeb&#039;s
market forecast and it was all about getting you to subscribe in each issue to yet another special report.........got sick of it and OPPTed OUT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I AGREE with #1,2,3 &amp; 4 above.   I once subscribed to Leeb&#8217;s<br />
market forecast and it was all about getting you to subscribe in each issue to yet another special report&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;got sick of it and OPPTed OUT.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
		<link>http://www.moneymorning.com/2008/12/24/recession-shapes/comment-page-1/#comment-13767</link>
		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not subscribed to Money Map or any one of the heap of newsletters because the the broad brush analysis of the market is already available &amp; digested by the market and the hot picks more often than not produce poor results-- its simple-no analyst is in a position to anticipate or even incorporate all existing factors-political social intranational etc.- in his/her model. so forecasting whether for an economy or stock is quite futile.
Instead provide information about an economy/ economies and stock/stocks. bonds etc. But the info must be comprehensive and based on that an analysis is furnished. Where an  opinion is unavoidable the two sides of the coin need to be clearly stated.
Never try to guess the market!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not subscribed to Money Map or any one of the heap of newsletters because the the broad brush analysis of the market is already available &amp; digested by the market and the hot picks more often than not produce poor results&#8211; its simple-no analyst is in a position to anticipate or even incorporate all existing factors-political social intranational etc.- in his/her model. so forecasting whether for an economy or stock is quite futile.<br />
Instead provide information about an economy/ economies and stock/stocks. bonds etc. But the info must be comprehensive and based on that an analysis is furnished. Where an  opinion is unavoidable the two sides of the coin need to be clearly stated.<br />
Never try to guess the market!</p>
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		<title>By: al bond</title>
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		<dc:creator>al bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Cynthia Stimpson&#039;s post.

 I believe that the MoneyMap is honest and informative.

 But the 1000% gain, $1000 scheme, of the month emails and

articles in the paper are, in my opinion, all written by the

same professional writer. They have a template and just

insert the latest idea in for this month. Plus they are so wordy

that they slow my email downloads to a crawl.

 Soltution? Charge me $5.00 more for my subscription

that is just MoneyMap writer&#039;s columns.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Cynthia Stimpson&#8217;s post.</p>
<p> I believe that the MoneyMap is honest and informative.</p>
<p> But the 1000% gain, $1000 scheme, of the month emails and</p>
<p>articles in the paper are, in my opinion, all written by the</p>
<p>same professional writer. They have a template and just</p>
<p>insert the latest idea in for this month. Plus they are so wordy</p>
<p>that they slow my email downloads to a crawl.</p>
<p> Soltution? Charge me $5.00 more for my subscription</p>
<p>that is just MoneyMap writer&#8217;s columns.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
		<link>http://www.moneymorning.com/2008/12/24/recession-shapes/comment-page-1/#comment-13742</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 17:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of us seem to forget what the Agora organisation is all about; Selling newsletters - not making people rich. For the simplistic-sounding reason that if we all become rich, we will have no need for any newsletters anymore...too busy lounging on the patio of our Bermuda mansion while our Yacht is being made ready for today&#039;s fishing. This in no way denies the fact that many of their newsletters have produced some decent results over the years. And some of the analysis is truly enlightening. (Not sure about the number of subscriber mansions and yachts thereby produced, though). 

Although perhaps not germane to the present thread, one persistent problem is with the &quot;teaser&quot; stocks used in marketing yet another newsletter. Over more than a decade, not a single one of those teaser stocks has performed as &quot;advertised&quot;.  Not one. And as for track records otherwise, we should all know the self-evident truth that &quot;past performance&quot; cited in marketing does indeed not predict future performance. With some of the options services the track records cited are just artificial, implying as they do that you somehow could sell at the exact top! Know what you want, buy it if you have to, use it responsibly and intelligently. But don&#039;t expect any newsletter marketing outfit to take you by the hand and make you a millionaire, no matter what they promise. 

I try to live with it all by treating Agora&#039;s stuff as just another source of information and research, use it responsibly and  which at times may be more profitable acting against, than following. But so it is with so many other financial information marketing companies. &quot;Free&quot; information usually is worth exactly what you pay for it. Don&#039;t expect more. The problem is more with services you pay for not delivering as &quot;promised&quot;.

And this plethora of &quot;Inner Circle&quot; &quot;VIP&quot; &quot;Chairman&#039;s Circle&quot;,  or whatever exclusive - limited acceptance only - keys to riches, really starts to annoy...not to mention the by now plain ridiculous inventing of new euphemisms e.g for selling options, or buying corporate bonds or whatever.   

Given the above what might be construed as cynical criticism I remain a subscriber to several of Agora&#039;s publications, for reasons perhaps implied &quot;between the lines&quot; above.  And also because some of the writers produce good reads with valid information, that can be acted upon - albeit in perhaps unintended  ways. For the scalpers among us - the &quot;reco bounces&quot; can be lucrative.

But I just love timely shorting of the occasional &quot;856% (or whatever) by next October - guaranteed&quot; teasers. Keep em&#039; coming, they are so much fun.

May we all have a Happy, Peaceful and Profitable 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of us seem to forget what the Agora organisation is all about; Selling newsletters &#8211; not making people rich. For the simplistic-sounding reason that if we all become rich, we will have no need for any newsletters anymore&#8230;too busy lounging on the patio of our Bermuda mansion while our Yacht is being made ready for today&#8217;s fishing. This in no way denies the fact that many of their newsletters have produced some decent results over the years. And some of the analysis is truly enlightening. (Not sure about the number of subscriber mansions and yachts thereby produced, though). </p>
<p>Although perhaps not germane to the present thread, one persistent problem is with the &#8220;teaser&#8221; stocks used in marketing yet another newsletter. Over more than a decade, not a single one of those teaser stocks has performed as &#8220;advertised&#8221;.  Not one. And as for track records otherwise, we should all know the self-evident truth that &#8220;past performance&#8221; cited in marketing does indeed not predict future performance. With some of the options services the track records cited are just artificial, implying as they do that you somehow could sell at the exact top! Know what you want, buy it if you have to, use it responsibly and intelligently. But don&#8217;t expect any newsletter marketing outfit to take you by the hand and make you a millionaire, no matter what they promise. </p>
<p>I try to live with it all by treating Agora&#8217;s stuff as just another source of information and research, use it responsibly and  which at times may be more profitable acting against, than following. But so it is with so many other financial information marketing companies. &#8220;Free&#8221; information usually is worth exactly what you pay for it. Don&#8217;t expect more. The problem is more with services you pay for not delivering as &#8220;promised&#8221;.</p>
<p>And this plethora of &#8220;Inner Circle&#8221; &#8220;VIP&#8221; &#8220;Chairman&#8217;s Circle&#8221;,  or whatever exclusive &#8211; limited acceptance only &#8211; keys to riches, really starts to annoy&#8230;not to mention the by now plain ridiculous inventing of new euphemisms e.g for selling options, or buying corporate bonds or whatever.   </p>
<p>Given the above what might be construed as cynical criticism I remain a subscriber to several of Agora&#8217;s publications, for reasons perhaps implied &#8220;between the lines&#8221; above.  And also because some of the writers produce good reads with valid information, that can be acted upon &#8211; albeit in perhaps unintended  ways. For the scalpers among us &#8211; the &#8220;reco bounces&#8221; can be lucrative.</p>
<p>But I just love timely shorting of the occasional &#8220;856% (or whatever) by next October &#8211; guaranteed&#8221; teasers. Keep em&#8217; coming, they are so much fun.</p>
<p>May we all have a Happy, Peaceful and Profitable 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Myron Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myron Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I third the motion byn Cynthia and Robert, I am a Lifetime member of Agora, Taipan and Oxford Club in addition to Money Map and am bombarded with promotions for services I am already qualified for, PLUS ever more expensive premium services from the very analysts i already paid for. 

You ALL (Agora affiliates) do it and you could ALL save yourselves incredible sums of money in printing and mailing costs by establishing segregated data bases to avoid DUPLICATION!

As an Alliance, Reserve, Lifetime member I get as many as a half dozen copies of the SAME promotion, many of them for services I already get and I am DISGUSTED with the waste and REFUSE to spend another dime with ANY Agora affiliated service until you clean up your act.

In fact, given that my repeated complaints are routinely ignored i am more likely to start CANCELLING some services since there are far more recommendations than I can possibly keep up with or invest in given my losses this past year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I third the motion byn Cynthia and Robert, I am a Lifetime member of Agora, Taipan and Oxford Club in addition to Money Map and am bombarded with promotions for services I am already qualified for, PLUS ever more expensive premium services from the very analysts i already paid for. </p>
<p>You ALL (Agora affiliates) do it and you could ALL save yourselves incredible sums of money in printing and mailing costs by establishing segregated data bases to avoid DUPLICATION!</p>
<p>As an Alliance, Reserve, Lifetime member I get as many as a half dozen copies of the SAME promotion, many of them for services I already get and I am DISGUSTED with the waste and REFUSE to spend another dime with ANY Agora affiliated service until you clean up your act.</p>
<p>In fact, given that my repeated complaints are routinely ignored i am more likely to start CANCELLING some services since there are far more recommendations than I can possibly keep up with or invest in given my losses this past year!</p>
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		<title>By: robert eidem</title>
		<link>http://www.moneymorning.com/2008/12/24/recession-shapes/comment-page-1/#comment-13668</link>
		<dc:creator>robert eidem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Cynthia Stimpson. To have to signup and pay for newsletter after newsletter to get information that ALL your
subscribers should receive is greedy and plain wrong.  Every Money morning subscriber should receive information on how to get the gas rebate checks for example. I see all of these
and not only will I not sign up for more newsletters, I really
doubt if these are valid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Cynthia Stimpson. To have to signup and pay for newsletter after newsletter to get information that ALL your<br />
subscribers should receive is greedy and plain wrong.  Every Money morning subscriber should receive information on how to get the gas rebate checks for example. I see all of these<br />
and not only will I not sign up for more newsletters, I really<br />
doubt if these are valid.</p>
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